fatuous when writing to "the factor." we'll be off tomorrow. election coverage. miss megyn is next. i'm bill o'reilly. please remember, the spin stops right here. we're definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight. less than ten hours to go before the polls open on perhaps the most important day of the presidential campaign to date. and the race is taking an increasingly ughingly and chaotic turn. welcome to "the kelly file," everyone, i'm megyn kelly. over the past week we have witnessed a surge of angry confrontations on the campaign trail. many of which have centered in and around rallies for donald trump. his events are hardly the only ones that have been disrupted but are the most high profile and witnessed more of them today at at least two campaign stops. but today's disruptions,

nothing, compared to what we witnessed in chicago on friday night. the situation there so tense the trump campaign called off its event. the story was documented realtime right here on this show as well as on showtime's hit series "the circus." watch. >> there are hundreds, maybe even thousands of protesters on hand. mike, the security does not have a handle on the situation here. >> tonight's rally will be postponed until another date. thank you very much. and please go in peace.

>> this is becoming violent. there's pushing and shoving going on inside this arena. it is total chaos. >> donald trump joins me now live on the phone. mr. trump, do you believe you have done anything to create a tone where this kind of violence would be encouraged? >> i don't take responsibility, nobody's been hurt in our rallies. >> do you regret saying any of those things about punching protesters, sending them out on stretchers? >> no, i don't regret it at all. i will say we've had tremendous success with people. you know, popularity that we have in the rallies, themselves, is love. it's a love fest. >> i have to ask you just for clarification, you have no regrets about anything that

withdryou have said? >> we have had great success, and frankly, i think we did a good job tonight. i think a lot of people are giving us a lot of credit. >> before we begin, i want to say a few words about what happened in chicago last night. >> donald trump has created a toxic environment. >> the encouragement of violence and aggression is not only wrong, but dangerous. >> donald trump has got to be loud and clear and tell his supporters that violence at rallies is not what america is about and to end this. >> i still at this moment continue to support the republican nominee, but it's getting harder every day.

>> you know, as we campaign, we have to, but unlike donald trump, i don't ask people in the audience to punch them in the face. >> carrier, the president, because i have to do it myself. i know it's not -- [ yelling ] and to think i had such an easy life. what do i need this for? >> we're going to have much more from "the circus tonight" as we're joined by its co-creator and co-host, mark mckinnon, who was with the trump campaign on friday night. suggesting this was very much a coordinated effort. >> we started to notice that all of a sudden almost snuimultaneo, a certain time, a lot of

protesters showed up and i guess it was a staged thing with this move-on organization which is not a good group of people from what everybody tells me, and we met with the security, we met with law enforcement who did a, i think, terrific job. they said it would be good not to be doing the speech because you would have had clashes and people could have been hurt or worse. and i think, and we've been given credit for this, hopefully we did the right thing. >> and remember, all of this comes on the eve of a tight battle for the 367 delegates at stake in 5 states tomorrow. joining me now to discussion it, barry bennett, informal adviser to the trump campaign, charles cook, a writer for "the national review" and judge andrew napolitano, fox news senior judicial analyst. good to see you all. charles, let me start with you on what we saw this weekend and whether you believe the critics who are pinning any of what we've seen at these trump rallies on donald trump are -- whether they have a valid complaint. >> sure they do. i heard bill o'reilly earlier

talking about where donald trump is obviously complicit, charles krauthamm krauthammer. there are obvious areas. he promised to pay the legal fees of people who punch others, who hurt others. he's failed to condemn those who have committed acts of violence, he refuses to admit that is happened and he harks back to this mythical era where you can punch somebody in the face and get away with it. i think it goes deeper than that. if you look at donald trump's campaign, he's built it around this mythical idea, this odd almost -- idea of leadership, power, confrontation. >> strength. >> you know, it's strength pushed both ways through google translate so you end up with this odd perception that doesn't exist. he's a weak man idea of a strong man. he's not vladimir putin. he's from the p.g. woodhouse novels going on about foreigners

and knees and root vegetables because he knows nothing about policy. he doesn't have a platform. i know it's amusing but i'm serious -- >> i'm not sure i'm with you on the root vegetable part. i was with you until then. >> the point i'm making here is quite serious is he's tried to build himself up as a strong man and he's done that because he knows nothing about policies. of course it was going to end like this. that's his entire shtick. he is complicit in this. he can't run away from it. he can't change it because this is his campaign. >> barry bennett, let me ask you because one of the points that charles make is that rather incredible thing that trump said on "meet the press" this weekend where he was reaffirming that he is having his people looking into paying the legal bills of this man at one of his rallies who saw a protester giving the finger to some of the protest -- to some of donald trump's supporters and the man reacted this way. watch.

>> hold it up high. >> oh. >> so he deserved it? >> every bit of it. >> what was that? >> yes, he deserved it. the next time we see him, we might have to kill him. >> you tell me how trump can offer to pay that man's legal fees and say that he is not -- he is not inviting more acts like that. >> well, i mean, no one's going to condone what that guy did, i mean, but that guy's almost 80 years old. he made a big mistake. and, you know, he was in a rally. he's clearly a supporter. it's the only instance i think we can find of a rally supporter hitting somebody which we've seen, you know, thousands and thousands and thousands of times now. and if it's going to ruin his life, then, you know, helping him out isn't the worst thing we can do. >> you don't see how that might encourage somebody who's maybe

not 78 years hold to do the same? >> he's already said he doesn't condone it. there's only one -- that's the only trump supporter you can find that's actually hit somebody. >> well, i don't know about that. >> that's the entire -- >> i don't know about that. >> show me another one then. >> we've seen quite a bit of violence at these rallies. >> we have. from professional protesters who -- 3,000 people show up in chicago -- >> well, there was a man pushing a black woman down who actually came out and said he really felt ashamed about it after the fact but the mob mentality against the protester led him to do it. that's one example off the top of my head. but what -- >> they come for this. this is why the protesters come. >> i agree in some cases. >> they want to be in front of the cameras and pick a fight. >> the question is, i ask you, judge, whether there's a responsibility in your view by our leaders to raise the dialogue, encourage peaceful behavior and inspire us to do better? >> well, there's a moral responsibility to do that but there's a constitutional obligation and it goes like

this. if a speaker encourages violence and there's time for more speech to rebut or negate his before the violence happens, he's not responsible for it. but if a speaker encourages violence and people respond immediately to the -- with the violence that he has -- >> which wasn't the case here. >> which doesn't appear to be the case then he's not responsible. the courts will bend over backwards not to punish speech. >> what do you make of it, charles? because now, you know, trump's free speech rights were shut down. it's not appropriate to shut down his right -- that is so un-american and the supreme court has made clear many times the answer to speech you do not like is not less speech, it's more speech, right? >> right. >> now he's becoming a bit of a first-amendment martyr. >> he's not a first-amendment martyr. he's a donald trump martyr. the only north star he has is the one that shines light on him. i totally agree with what the judge said. i'm a first amendment salute t

absolutist. the people who deliberately set out to shut down donald trump's rally are reprehensible. you don't do that, don't try to suppress speech. they said that's what they were trying to do. morally he has a responsibility as the man on the speech, regardless of what the law says or those trying to provoke him say, he has a moral responsibility not to incite, not to make it worse and he doesn't do it. he says, well, i have would have hit him in the face or in the olden days he would have gone out in a stretcher. that's inappropriate. >> judge? >> if he sends veiled messages to the people in his audience prone to violence and knows it and intends it, he has caused it. our friend is right. when the remedy for bad speech is more speech, hate speech is more speech, on the other hand, the chicago police had an obligation to protect donald trump's free speech rights -- >> they did the best they could. >> the audience's right to listen and the protesters' right to protest. >> they did the best -- that's what -- i mean, this country at

its core is about encouraging speech and listening to viewpoints with which you disagree no matter how vehemently you may. great to see you all. speaking of mr. trump calling out his detractors, or in some cases reporters, this weekend he took issue with this reporter's assertion at the last presidential debate that his now-defunct school trump university had received a d-minus rating from the better business bureau in 2010. mr. trump is off base. at the debate, mr. trump claimed his embattled trump university had been upgraded from the d-minus rating you see here to an "a." i noted this had never been publicly available. during a commercial break, mr. trump approached the moderators with a document he claimed was proof of trump university's "a" rating. the document shown here says nothing about trump university but relates to another entity. we agreed to look into it, but apparently not fast enough. >> i gave you the report card. i gave you the "a" during the debate because they said it was a "d" and it was an "a." you did something very

dishonest. you didn't report it. >> after the debate, we made inquiries about that document which had not been authenticated or verified, in which the better business bureau deniey eied sen to mr. trump at the debate. on that night's "kelly file" we offered the following. trump came up to us after that break and brought out a better business bureau accreditation notice for the trump entrepreneur initiative and this says that trump's entrepreneur initiative on a scale of a-f has an "a" rating. the point i was trying to make is when trump university was operating and got into trouble, it was given a "d" minus rating. that was the last public rating it had. >> that's right. exactly. >> he began under a new name, it had this "a" rating. mr. trump now accuses your humble debate moderator of dishonesty. we stand by our reporting which has been verified by multiple news organizations as well as the better business bureau. trump university had a "d" minus

rating before it went out of business in 2010. the claim about the "a" is quite simply a head fake. the company at issue is trump university, that's the business at the heart of the many fraud lawsuits. in 2010, under siege trump university changed its name to trump entrepreneur initiative, tei. it was that business, tei, only operational for a few months, that received an "a" and while mr. trump now claims trump university is not out of business -- >> i'm not out of business. it's not out of business. it's suspended until i win the lawsuit. >> that, too, is untrue. trump university no longer exists. its successor, tei, was effectively closed within weeks of opening. as mr. trump's own testimony in the case makes clear. here's what he told a court in 2013. "within weeks of changing its name, tei stopped accepting new students, offering live seminars or engaging in any advertising effectively ceasing its

operations." those, folks, are the facts. also tonight a new bombshell in the controversy over trump's campaign manager appearing to grab a breitbart reporter after she asked a question. that reporter, michelle fields, and one of her bosses, ben shapiro, one of her colleagues here to explain what has happened since then and why they have just resigned from breitbart. plus, campaign strategist mark mckinnon was there as gop insiders wrestled with trump's impact on 2016. wait until you hear what the establishment said on camera. and can you explain why you recommend synthetic over cedar?

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between fields and lewandowski. lewandowski denies there was contact. new footage was released and folks on both sides say it proves their case. watch. trace gallagher live are the report in our west coast newsroom. >> remember, megyn, the trump campaign says not a single reporter or camera captured the incident but we have three camera capturing different angles of the incident. in the first you see red arrows pointing to trump campaign manager corey lewandowski and former breitbart reporter michelle fields. the arrows point to her arm and lewandowski's arm. finally you see fields abruptly pulled out of view. in angle two, we still don't see actual contact, but you do see

corey lewandowski reaching over toward michelle fields. and the third video clearly shows lewandowski walking past michelle fields and apparently pulling her out of the way. now listen to an audio recording of the incident where "washington post" reporter ben terrace talks to michelle fields about what happened. >> can't believe he did that. that was so hard. was that corey? >> yeah, like, what threat were you? >> that was insane. you should have felt how hard he grabbed me. >> fields claims he grabbed her hard enough to leave bruises but lewandowski calls her, quote, delusional and an attention seeker. donald trump accuses her of making it up and trump supporters are now citing the third video we showed you of proof that lewandowski never touched her. at first breitbart supported fields, now it back up corey lewandowski saying he was

misidentified and text messages prove he did not do it. fields resigned. so did editor at large ben shiro accusing breitbart of protecting trump and his, quote, bully campaign manager. breitbart then ran a piece on its home page reading, "ben shapiro betrays loyal breitbart readers in pursuit of fox news contributorship." the piece was later removed and the editor who wrote it apologized but now two other breitbart employees have resigned and chief pr rep has dropped the company. listen. >> it's one of the key reasons i decided to resign works with breitbart last week is because of their allegiance to donald trump and breitbart's become a de facto superpac for the donald trump campaign. >> megyn, as you noted michelle fields has also filed a police report in this case. megyn? >> trace, thank you. joining us tonight in the "kelly file" exclusive, former breitbart reporter michelle fields and ben shapiro. the now former breitbart editor at large. he's also the current editor in

chief of dailywire.com. great to see you both. so, michelle, let me start with you. why did you resign? >> well, i realized that my company didn't have my back. i can't stand with a company that won't stand for me. they knew the truth from the very beginning. my editor as soon as it happened had spoken to corey. he told me corey admitted to it and i was getting an apology so i stayed quiet. i wasn't going to make a big deal about it. look, it's bruises. whatever. it's fine. i thought i'm not going to make a huge deal. and that didn't happen. i never got the apology. instead they embarked on this smear campaign against me. so they knew the truth, my company knew the truth, and they're siding with trdonald trp and i have to say when this happened my washington editor matthew boyle said don't worry, this is going to be great because donald trump is going to give us so many exclusives now because they're going to feel like they have to do it because of what they did. this is how my company was

looking at this. instead of saying, wow, what happened, are you okay? let's defend you. they were thinking this was a good thing because we would get more access to donald trump. >> they denied -- matthew boyle and corey lewandowski are denying they had a conversation. produced an e-mail --

today, andrew breitbart would have been if florida getting in lewandowski's face and demanding

an apology. >> michelle, when this videotape came out today or yesterday, showing actual contact between you and corey which he denied, his supporters said this proves this is a hoax, that michelle fields wasn't assaulted, wasn't thrown to the ground which you had not alleged but other people suggested and they believe this does not show a criminal assault. your response to those folks. >> well, i didn't want to file a criminal complaint. i never wanted to do that. the reason i did is because i was being accused of putting makeup on my arm to show that there were bruises. i needed a report to show people that this happened. and let me say, corey in the beginning said he had never met me before, that i was delusional, that this did not happen. now if you look at the campaign's approach and their spokesperson katrina pierson's approach, well, it did happen but it wasn't that hard. this is a campaign that continues to lie.

those bruises will heal. my problem is the smearing of my name, my reputation. i have to fight back. >> first they said there was no video of the incident. now we've seen that's true. then they said there were no witnesses -- >> and no eyewitnesss. >> -- that witnessed it and that's not true. he said he never had any contact with you, now we've seen that's not true. although those who suggested you'd been pushed down to the ground in one report they said that's obviously not true. ben, i want to ask you about the smear. because, boy, corey lewandowski, it may be known to our viewers, have issued threats before. came after her and tried to -- i mean, they're basically trying to destroy her, michelle's reputation. saying that he's an attention seeker, tries to make herself the story, fabricates things. that's the implication. theregna an article out today suggesting that that is a sexist smear. your thoughts? >> it is a sexist smear. the fact that corey lewandowski was putting at reports from discredited websites, he was accusing michelle of being an attention seeker who had done

this in past to gain attention to herself. all corey had to do was apologize and said he didn't mean to do it. he decided to lie and smear and breitbart decided to go right along with that. >> why is this a story? ben, in your view, apart from the implosion of breitbart and it's part of the civil war that we're seeing in some, you know, from some on the right, why is this a story? >> well, i mean, i think the worship of the trump campaign by some people in the media leading to them covering up the truth is a major story and as you say, i think it's, again, a story because the trump campaign never acknowledgesu-i mistakes. never acknowledges their responsibility for violence. never acknowledges anything that theyyú& do wrong. it's a no-apologies campaign. that's why he's popular. that does have consequences and does have victims. in this case, it was just a bruise on the arm. there are other cases where it's more than that. >> thank you, both, for being here. you can see michelle's full interview that she did with yours truly along with the full response from the trump

campaign. this did not get to air in our normal 9:00 time slot because of the breaking news at chicago. it aired at 3:00 a.m. you may have missed it. go to facebook.com/thekellyfile or facebook.com at megyn kelly to see michelle's story and the trump campaign rebuttal. plus,s we have new delegate math ahead of tomorrow night's critical primaries. chris stirewalt on the critical path it might take and how it could -- and mark mckinnon took his camera into a dinner of gop establishment types, things got interesting and that's next. >> i've never voted for anybody other than republican for president of the united states. this will not be an easy thing for me. pet moments are beautiful, unless you have allergies. then your eyes may see it differently. only flonase is approved to relieve both your itchy, watery eyes and congestion. no other nasal allergy spray can say that. complete allergy relief or incomplete. let your eyes decide. flonase changes everything.

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for it, trump. >> everybody around this table that i know, we've been in every presidential campaign probably since 1980 in various degrees, and in trump's problem he doesn't have a -- you don't know what his compass is. >> and how problematic is that for the future of the party? >> i think before it's all over, it's going to be hugely problematic. >> i talk to people all the time. why don't you republicans do something about this guy? >> i'm sorry, this is not the soviet union. we can't call a meeting and decide trump is out. >> we hate that. >> yeah. >> dictatorship, who's for it? trump is doing well for one reason. he understands the climate and the culture of a better than anybody at this table. >> how do you feel about the republican nominee may be someone that none of you know? >> shell shocked. bewildered. republicans are hierarchical.

we fall in line. trump has interrupted that cycle. >> donald trump, known thought of him as a political leader until six weeks ago. >> he's not articulate, not poised, not informed. all he has going for him is a lot of votes. why hasn't any of that hit home? here we are. here we are. >> joining me now, mark mckinnon, former chief media adviser to george w. bush, co-creator and co-host of the weekly documentary series on show time, "the circus." donald trump would run that as an ad for himself, am i wrong? >> no. all the trump supporters that saw that say that's exactly why we support this guy. >> right. >> and, well, we went out to find the members of the establishment and we found the six that are left. >> there they are. you found the room in which they eat. >> we did. the interesting thing was, of course, that there's really no consensus among them except

they're completely bewildered about what to do. a couple of them are rnc members and basically say if he's nominated then we'll support him. a couple of them are actually running behind superpacs trying to fight him and a couple of them said under no circus are we going to vote for him. there's no consensus within the establishment that's left about what to do and hence the chaos. >> that sentiment about how we're republicans, there's a hierarchy, we fall in line. it's like people's heads are exploding right now say, i don't think so, wrong, wrong, sir. i mean, that -- that's exactly the problem is that mentality and then it was interesting to hear the other guy talk about how there is no -- they keep waiting for the establishment to go get trump. like, there is no one. there isn't some calvary that can just shut it down. >> well, there's that. that's the calvary, those six guys. clearly they're not going to ride out and save it. >> no wonder the establishment is losing. with all due respect to those guys. they seem like nice people. >> they are, they're smart guys and have been around a long

time. one of them said, which is really true, they said donald trump has a better finger on the pulse of american voters than we do. >> that's right. that's the mystery to all of them. they don't get why he resonates with the voters and continues to resonate. i know you're talking about, you know, the state of the republican party right now and what it stands for right now. you said that there are three types of republicans at the moment, bewildered, bewitched, and confused. who are those people? why do you separate them like that? >> well, i mean, there are those who are just bewildered by the phenomena of what's happening with trump and bewitched and think it's inevitable and then there's those that are just bothered by it and, you know, aren't going to vote for trump under any circumstances. so that's -- it goes to the whole point about there's no consensus in the republican party. people are all over the map about what to do. and it's that chaos that has really fueled a lot of the success that trump has had because there's no -- there's no unified front. >> and just today, john kasich suggested that he might go back

on that pledge to support the eventual nominee, whoever it may be, saying i got to think about this and i'm going to have an announcement about that later. marco rubio suggested he's making it harder and harder. you know, he's expressing doubt. so even these guys who are still in the race other than ted cruz are starting to wiggle on whether they could ultimately get behind him. >> well, they are wiggling and i think part of that is the events of the last few days. it's just become a very volatile toxic atmosphere and i think people are trying to think how is this going to represent the republican party at large and where our party goes not just this next election cycle but way beyond that? what's the real foundation, philosophical underpinnings of the matter? do we want to be part of that? >> represent the party, demolish the party and start of new? >> the irony of all of this, of course, you remember, a year ago or so the republicans were

forcing donald trump to sign a pledge saying he'd run in the party and not run as a third-party candidate. now it's just the opposite. >> he didn't like that question in august. i bet he wants to see those pledges right now. fork them over. >> that's right. >> great to see you, mark. great show. >> thanks, megyn. kick it. up next, congressman duncan hunter was the first member of congress to endorse donald trump. he'll weigh in on the establishment, the campaign trail chaos and all the rest of it. plus, one polling company decided to ask voters about the violence at these campaign rallies and we'll have the eye-opening effects it's having on super tuesday 2 when chris stirewalt joins us just ahead. and alerts you. warns you about incoming cross-traffic. cameras and radar detect dangers you don't. and it can even stop by itself. so in this crash test, one thing's missing: a crash. the 2016 e-class.

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police officers bleeding from the head. reminiscent of images from the '60s. i mean, we're going backwards here. this is a frightening, grotes e grotesque, and disturbing development in american politics. >> i believe donald trump as our nominee is going to shatter and fracture the republican party and the conservative movement. i still at this moment continue to intend to support the republican nominee, but getting harder every day. >> that was presidential candidate marco rubio, fielding questions about the state of the race and the current front-runner in a news conference with reporters on saturday morning. joining me to respond, dronald trump supporter and california congressman duncan hunter. great to see you, u6xycongressm. what are your thoughts on that, the predictions of doom that we heard from him and from some of those guys sitting around that round table moments ago should donald trump become the nominee? >> well, from senator rubio, he's in the race, right, so he's going to -- he has his own opinion. he's in the fight. you always feel differently when you're in the fight. but here's what this is.

if people are going to vote for donald trump, in the millions, more people than have voted in a decade, and they're goingvd to vote for him, that is the gop establishment. it isn't the global corporatists or the intellectual elite that are angry that they're not going to be in the administration. the people are the party. the republican people are the party. i'm not the party. i'm simply a representative of a few hundred thousand people in san diego. and i'll tell you what, too, megyn, whená@rx i cam back from afghanistan from my third tour, right, i came back and i ran for office in san diego. i was not on city council. i was never in the state senate or something. so i jumped ahead of all of these guys that had been planning for years to run for u.s. congress. i jumped in front of all of them. i'll tell you what, that upsets people, that makes them angry. that's something that does upset people. i can see the anger coming out of all these people that had this planned and they were going to be in the establishment, they were going to be really big movers and shakers. guess what, now they're not. that upsets them. >> they got trumped.

>> i'm sorry. they got trumped. >> that was amazing listening to the guys talking in the rou roundtable saying he's not articulate, he's not poised, he's not informed, all he has going for him is a lot of votes. >> right. you know, take any businessman -- >> that is how it works. >> -- in america and put him on and it doesn't mean the other guys can't make a good run for it, but it does show you how the gop, quote, establishment got caught so much on its heels, likeh -- where is the hierarchy? what is going -- where -- who is -- why haven't they kissed the ring? >> what, who, where? there is no hierarchy. the american people get to vote, right? it doesn't matter who endorses who, doesn't matter whether you

put in $100 million or $30 million. if the american people don't like you, they're not going to vote for you. if they like you, you're going to win. it's that simple. >> that's right. it's like -- it's like the juries in court. they have a way of figuring it out despite the spin. >> and the american people are not stupid. they know what they're doing and they can tell -- i mean, you know, we meet people every day, megyn, you meet people every day. you can tell if they're fake or they're an honest person. the american people can tell. oh, my gosh, we've had 12 debates now. i think they know who donald trump is at this point and they're still voting for him. >> well, we're just going to have one more then they're going to get to know him better. fox news debate on monday. >> good. >> great to see you, congressman hunter. >> thank you. >> again, with just more than nine hours now, right? just more than nine hours until the polls open for super tuesday 2, we have got some eye-opening new numbers from a top pollster and then from chris stirewalt, next. here they come.

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breaking tonight it is 9:50 eastern time and at this hour live pictures of marco rubio come paining in florida. ted cruz campaigning in illinois. little more than nine hours before the polls open. for super tuesday 2. in the key state of ohio,

monmouth university polling shows john kasich leading. in florida mr. trump is in first with 44%. florida senator rubio is in second with 27%. what do we make of these? patrick murray is director of monmouth university polling institute and chris steirwald is here. bottom lean it for us. >> it's going to be close. >> wah wah! come on! >> i could have told you this. >> i trust my numbers. i've done well with kasich going to do well in terms of our polls so i think he's going to pull it off. >> okay. if you look at the real clear politics, you look at the far right side and ohio kasich, kasich, kasich. right? suggest i know how this goes. same thing for trump in florida where i mean, you know, you hear marco rubio talk. i don't believe those polls. those polls are wrong. it at 1

that's actually i think on the lower end from what some of the polls are showing and 8 points a week ago. trump is doubled -- >> why is that? just sort of the -- >> i think -- >> aura of invinceability. >> a lot of attack ads of marco rubio in florida. job approval rating of primary voters of republicans up 60% and low in our own party. >> high for his poll last week. >> that's just not good. i also think the events of friday night had something to do with -- >> tell us. how did that affect voters? >> after friday night, interviewing friday night and saturday and sunday night we added a question of events in chicago and made you feel about trump. two thirds said, had no impact either way. 22% said it made them more likely to support trump versus 11% less likely and in fact, we saw on saturday and nights trump's lead widen.

>> republicans don't want to see that behavior. you're talking about how republicans more like, okay, i'll wait in line and not talk to the exit poll people and not protest and vote them out of office. >> right. >> so tomorrow, if patrick's right, because you've heard it right here, predicted rubio to d lose -- no. he didn't. >> i'll say it. rub rubio's going to lose florida fl. >> okay. what does that mean for this race going forward? >> depends on illinois, missouri and north carolina because there are more delegates at stake in three other states proportionally allocated. we pay tension to ohio and florida winner take all. 99 in florida. 65 in ohio. i have it written down. it will be okay. but the other three states have more delegates combined looking at them, especially illinois. huge trove of delegates and looking at ted cruz especially in missouri, illinois and north carolina. we don't expect him to win

either one of the winner take all states and the polling would indicate we expect kasich ohio. trump florida. as bernie sanders demonstrated in michigan last week, sometimes the polls are wrong. but that's what the polls tell us and see how the count tins especially ones close to places where ted cruz has done well before. >> if cruz does reasonably well in those states and ohio and florida split, is it headed to an open, contested convention? >> well, yes or maybe another thing happens. maybe the other thing that happens is the republicans suck it up and have a ted cruz sandwich. they have resisted this for a long time but if marco rubio is knocked out of the race, if he loses in florida, especially lossing by a margin and not carting well in the other states the republicans could say as much as we don't like the guy lighting the castle on fire with torches for four years, maybe we'll back this guy. >> you have a few martinis and looks better. we'll be right back.

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tune in tomorrow for super tuesday 2 starts at 7:00 p.m. eastern. we'll bring you the results, huge night. could determine this whole thing. stay tuned for a late night "kelly file" at 11:00 p.m. see you then. this is a fox news alert. i'm carl cameron in miami, florida, where less than 24 hours donald trump is looking for a one-two political putaway punch in the winner take all states of florida and ohio and trump had a big lead in florida polls for a couple of weeks and on the verge of knocking out marco rubio in the home state and trump's campaigning aggressively in ohio where john kasich led most polls and because he is the governor and close to the people in the organization there, he is favored to pull off a reasonably good day. ted cruz, second in the delegates and in the